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Please tell us what features you'd like in laarc
12 points by shawn to meta laarc 51 days ago | 77 comments




2 points by i4cu 10 days ago

I'd like the default page[1] to notice when I'm logged in and render the page according to my preferences:

  * filtered tags (via preference settings with both whitelist and blacklist options)
  * shows only posts in the last month (also definable in settings?).
  * orders posts by points (highest to lowest).
1. one of the links in the top left corner.

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5 points by shawn 51 days ago

Inspired by HN's old feature requests thread (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=363), let us know if you'd like to see any changes on laarc, or if you have ideas for what might be missing compared to other community sites.

Experimental ideas are quite welcome! There's a lot of freedom and flexibility with how the site could turn out.

Hop into our discord if you'd like to chat with everyone and toss around ideas. https://discord.gg/qaqkc9z

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How about removing comment downvotes?

I think downvotes for submissions would be ok but in my experience downvotes for comments have some unpleasant effects on discussion.

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2 points by bobbyjack 14 days ago

Would be great if we could combine tags, e.g. /l/dev/show

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2 points by shawn 14 days ago

Ok, you can combine tags using boolean operators:

https://www.laarc.io/l/!dev&show|ask

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Make time stamps measured in days if they are older than 24 hours

Same with months and times greater than 30/31 days

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2 points by shawn 11 days ago

Ok, timestamps older than 24 hours are measured in days.

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fix doubleposting, If i click "add comment" twice quickly 2 comments may be posted. This could be fixed by making a one time code in the form or something.

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2 points by shawn 12 days ago

Ok, duplicate replies are killed and marked as a dupe.

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2 points by rain1 11 days ago

testing

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testing

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by rain1 12 days ago [dupe]

fix doubleposting, If i click "add comment" twice quickly 2 comments may be posted. This could be fixed by making a one time code in the form or something.

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Another idea if I haven't said it already: the "someone replied to you message" component checks to see if the comment and the submitter are the same person. Most "reply" notifications I get from Laarc are my abstracts or summaries I do in comments on my own stories.

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2 points by shawn 14 days ago

Good idea. Done!

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Thank you!

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3 points by lettergram 26 days ago

Auto fill for the tags when I'm creating. I recommend something like the select2 library:

https://select2.org/

Mix / match tags for the view, so something such as:

https://www.laarc.io/l/programming|news|dev

Should give me all the stories tagged with any

https://www.laarc.io/l/programming&news&dev

Should give me all the stories tagged with all

https://www.laarc.io/l/!programming

The bang should remove items with that tag from the search. So I may want all topics besides programming for what ever reason.

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Ok, you can combine tags using boolean operators:

https://www.laarc.io/l/!dev&show|ask

(Your examples work as written, too.)

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2 points by emily 25 days ago

+1 for | and & and !

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3 points by test_acck 26 days ago

A more privacy-friendly, free/open source chat option like Matrix (Riot's a good client). You can bridge Matrix <-> Discord [1] so people who like Discord don't even need to switch.

[1] https://t2bot.io/

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2 points by shawn 4 days ago

Done: https://riot.im/app/#/room/#laarc:matrix.org

Thanks to matt for setting this up. https://www.laarc.io/item?id=1502

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2 points by gerikson 23 days ago

The display of tags is IMHO ugly and hard to read.

I don't think the "/l/" prefix is needed when displaying the tags.

Screenshot:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8l6njz9vg8hrbzy/2019-01-29%2012-14-28.png?dl=0

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4 points by shawn 22 days ago

I dropped the /l/ prefix and appended the tag's total count. Is this better or worse?

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Must been too sleepy this week since I just noticed that. Yeah, it definitely looks cleaner. Thanks.

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2 points by gerikson 22 days ago

Thanks!

The absence of prefix is definitely better. I will let the tag count sink in for a while and update after I've seen it in action.

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2 points by gerikson 23 days ago

When viewing the page in full screen, the text expands to fill the screen, making reading long lines more difficult.

Example screenshot, from a 1920 pixel wide monitor.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kq7ax7cmddy51p3/2019-01-29%2012-11-56.png?dl=0

I believe it would be better for the line length to be restricted when the browser window is expanded horizontally, especially for longer paragraphs.

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2 points by brylie 28 days ago

Open source development process for laarc platform.

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Done: https://github.com/laarc/laarc

For the social side of things, hopping into discord and striking up a conversation is the best way, but I’m open to suggestions.

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5 points by emily 51 days ago

A "save to favorites" or "bookmark" feature, separate from the list that's generated by your upvote history, and longer term, the ability to organize them. Sometimes it's hard to go back and find things, and it would be cool to have the ability to organize research, etc. :)

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2 points by shawn 21 days ago

Ok, you can save stories and comments to favorites.

https://www.laarc.io/favorites?id=shawn

To save something to your favorites, click on an item's timestamp, then click "favorite" (at the top, next to the "parent" link).

If you visit someone's profile page, you can visit links to their submissions/comments/favorites.

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Awesome! This takes care of one of the prerequisites for https://www.laarc.io/item?id=230#313 :)

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This was a big problem for me on various forums. I don't want one aggregator to control this on all sites I use either. I ended up keeping per-site folders with text copies of the good stuff with links back to originals. Each site letting one organize the material is a step up. API's that make that easy to automate might be next step up from there. Then, what goes into each site can be locally generated, customized for each per their style, and uploaded.

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4 points by shawn 48 days ago

I don't want one aggregator to control this on all sites I use either.

Definitely! This was partly the motivation for starting the site. Your bookmarks are yours, and it's important to us to avoid siloing data. The API might end up similar to https://github.com/HackerNews/API.

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2 points by shawn 40 days ago

Ok, there is an initial JSON API.

For any user or item, you can add .json to the endpoint. For example:

https://www.laarc.io/item?id=230

Becomes

https://www.laarc.io/item.json?id=230

And for users: https://www.laarc.io/user.json?id=nickpsecurity

I’ll add endpoints for tags like /l/news soon (and RSS feeds).

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Really cool. I like the simplicity of just adding .json. If I'm looking at that right, it has all the stories I submitted in JSON so I could just grab, store, or view them with an app?

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2 points by shawn 40 days ago

Correct. If you notice any problems, let me know.

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Good work and thanks! :)

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A “read later” button

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I probably should've read the guidelines first. Just jumped in. I noticed the requirement from HN of adding pdf or video to the title. On Lobsters, we have tags for those which it auto-adds if link ends in pdf or (just guessing) is from known video site. It then put those tags first so they know at a glance.

I'm not sure what the best method is here. Just mentioning that for your consideration.

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3 points by shawn 47 days ago

Actually, for now, go ahead and err on the side of submitting more things; you have good taste. I can fix up small details like the title.

You’re right about auto-fixes. If you hop into our Discord or email, I can fill you in on some upcoming plans. New people are showing up each day, and curiation like you mention will be crucial going forward.

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Thank! One feature I can suggest up-front is good search. Two kinds:

1. Doing whatever gets you indexed by DuckDuckGo, Google, etc

2. Having a search feature on the site for keywords, filters by time/user/tag, and so on. Apart from discovery, this also lets me check to see if something was already submitted to avoid wasting folks' time.

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3 points by akkartik 48 days ago

Since laarc.io wants to be partly like Pinboard, a place for us to store our bookmarks, I find myself wishing for a place where I could showcase my bookmarks. Two key features I'd like:

a) Allow me to control the order in which they show up. (There can also be a view that's chronological, maybe even with RSS. But when first-time visitors show up I want them to see the greatest hits.)

b) Allow me to organize my bookmarks using tags. You already have tags, give me a view for all posts added by me with some tag.

Some points of comparison:

1. HN favorites. See mine at https://news.ycombinator.com/favorites?id=akkartik. But only one namespace, and strictly ordered by most recently added.

2. Google+'s Collections feature (https://plus.google.com/+googleplus/posts/7ZpGWeou2sV). Here's one that I created: https://plus.google.com/collection/cmGHYB. You can see how it shows up on my profile at http://akkartik.name/google. Multiple namespaces but ordered by most recently added.

3. The old del.icio.us used to have global bookmarks for a tag at /tag/tag1, and user's tags at /user/user1/tag/tag1, with ways to easily jump around between the two. I always thought that was really nice.

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To corroborate your position, your favorites already led me to rediscover some good stuff. Really liked that [blockchain article](https://medium.com/@kaistinchcombe/decentralized-and-trustless-crypto-paradise-is-actually-a-medieval-hellhole-c1ca122efdec). Re-bookmarked it on new system. :)

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3 points by shawn 48 days ago

(Speaking of [foo](https://example.com) syntax, I'm planning to add markdown support for that. Stay tuned!)

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Oh yeah, that was a slip. I've clearly spent more time posting links on Lobsters than HN recently. Yeah, Markdown or a HTML subset would be nice. Embedding the links is an advantage Lobsters has over HN since it reduces clutter.

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3 points by akkartik 48 days ago

A year or so ago HN added anchor tags to comments, so you can link to a comment in the context of the larger thread. For example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18776606#18791215. Would be cool to have that here as well. You could even go one better and actually make that the link at each post, so it's more discoverable.

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4 points by shawn 48 days ago

Done! https://www.laarc.io/item?id=230#309

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Just spotted a bug. I responded to a comment from https://www.laarc.io/threads?id=akkartik and it put https://www.laarc.io/threads?id=akkartik#366 on the location bar. Which is a valid link, but only for a fixed period.

This feature is getting complex :/ Feel free to put this on the back-burner.

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2 points by shawn 47 days ago

No no, good catch. Thanks for pointing out these corner cases. I'm heading over to a lovely little cafe called the Front Bar in Chicago, so I'll have time to look into this.

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Thank you!

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3 points by rain1 51 days ago

I like the feature where you put the URL in to submit then it automatically fetches the title for you.

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4 points by shawn 51 days ago

Ok, you can now click "suggest title" on the submit page.

Here's the commit: https://github.com/shawwn/arc3.2/commit/c3fbfa1e0c8ac9b6cf6857aec1fd69277fe64bb2

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3 points by shawn 51 days ago

Good idea! How does lobsters do it? I see that it has something to do with fetch-url-attributes: https://github.com/lobsters/lobsters/blob/11592ac0a6d28e7b935fe6b78e3e5821a45d2af3/app/controllers/stories_controller.rb#L63-L69

FWIW, the laarc bookmarklet (https://www.laarc.io/bookmarklet.html) does this for you, but frustratingly Chrome recently made it impossible to install bookmarklets by dragging and dropping them onto the toolbar. I'll try for a lobsters-esque solution.

EDIT: Found the algorithm lobsters uses: https://github.com/lobsters/lobsters/blob/11592ac0a6d28e7b935fe6b78e3e5821a45d2af3/app/models/story.rb#L890-L971

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2 points by akkartik 48 days ago

Email notifications when someone responds to my comment?

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4 points by shawn 48 days ago

Done! If you go into your profile page, you'll notice that you can now verify your email address. Afterwards you'll be able to toggle the email notification setting.

The official contact email is now [email protected]

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3 points by shawn 48 days ago

Here's the commit: https://github.com/shawwn/arc3.2/commit/946e3196bb79c0c2595b2903afe2e4af11d70ac5

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2 points by shawn 48 days ago

Sure, let me see how lobste.rs is set up. In the meantime, I've found https://quiterss.org/ monitoring https://www.laarc.io/rsscomments to be effective at this.

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Is that the RSS reader you use? I spent a while looking around over the holidays without arriving at a decision. (I spent 2018 without a reader after Digg Reader folded.)

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2 points by shawn 48 days ago

Yeah! JungleCat pointed it out here: https://www.laarc.io/item?id=263 I use KeePassX for password management, so it's the perfect GUI for me.

(The default alert sound is annoying, but I changed it to /System/Library/Sounds/Pop.aiff in Options -> Notifications -> Sound.)

JungleCat has also done some impressive gamedev work. Check out his "scent map" pathfinding technique in the browser: https://www.laarc.io/item?id=274#285 Haven't seen anything like it.

It's probably time to add a "Show" section.

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Is QuiteRSS related to KeePassX somehow? I looked at it, but I didn't get a sense of who the authors were and was leery of installing a desktop app in that situation.

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2 points by shawn 47 days ago

It's unrelated. I only meant that the interfaces are both austere.

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2 points by akkartik 48 days ago

I don't know how many others are like me, but I like having an actual date and time for each permalink. Maybe as a tooltip on the 'n days ago'?

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2 points by shawn 48 days ago

Done! (UTC time for now.)

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3 points by shawn 48 days ago

Here's the commit for the UTC timestamp change: https://github.com/shawwn/arc3.2/commit/1272ce88a34108589ac769ee870543a4a7ebc0eb

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2 points by JungleCat 50 days ago

RSS feed! Maybe even one for new stories, one for new comments?

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3 points by shawn 50 days ago

Good idea! Here you go:

RSS stories: https://www.laarc.io/rss

RSS comments: https://www.laarc.io/rsscomments

The comments feed looks great. (I use Feedly[1] on iOS.)

Let me know if you spot any issues.

[1] https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/feedly-smart-news-reader/id396069556?mt=8

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3 points by JungleCat 50 days ago

Oh, that was quick! Awesome, thanks :)

Looks fine using QuiteRSS, too. ( https://quiterss.org/ )

Though browsers don't use that stuff anymore, but it can't hurt to add something like his to the front page HTML, right?

    <link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS" href="rss">
It's how I check if a site has a feed most of the time: ctrl+u, ctrl+f "rss" and "atom"

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3 points by shawn 50 days ago

That was a great idea. QuiteRSS is my new favorite reader.

https://www.laarc.io/newcomments and https://www.laarc.io/ now works with QuiteRSS.

It'd be easy to add feeds for each tag, too. Something like /l/music.rss

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2 points by emily 51 days ago

Also would definitely not be opposed to <a target="_blank"> :)

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3 points by JungleCat 50 days ago

Preferably as a user config option though, reason being that without the blank target, you can still press ctrl (or whatever key a particular browser may use) to open it in a new tab, but if the link has a target=_blank, you cannot open it in the same tab (easily).

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I request that hyperlinks not be truncated. Currently the end of a long link is replaced with ...

It makes it difficult to copy and paste a post to someone.

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Ok, I replaced hyperlink truncation with a css effect. Comments can be copied now.

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2 points by shawn 45 days ago

Ok, I bumped the hyperlink truncation threshold from 60 to 100. It might be raised or lowered depending on how it affects commenting.

If you think of a better way to handle this, let me know.

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4 points by akkartik 44 days ago

In Mastodon I can copy links with ellipses and somehow magically still end up with the full link in my clipboard. Might be worth researching how it manages that.

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Thanks! Ended up using a similar solution.

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One minor bug I ran into: when I submitted a pdf I hit 'suggest title' just to see what would happen, and noticed that it filled the title with 'running...' or something like that? It took a while so I lost patience and filled out the title. But then I lost it when the request finally completed and filled out 'unknown' in the text box. It feels like a fairly complex workflow and I probably don't understand all the ins and outs. Maybe just follow how Reddit or Lobsters does it?

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2 points by shawn 48 days ago

Fixed. Thanks! If the suggestion takes too long to generate, you can now safely type in a different title without worrying about it being nuked mid-entry.

https://github.com/shawwn/arc3.2/commit/8b9ced56efc36e912538e82c18dc16ba6f44f28e

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A link under the comment textarea to explain the markup.

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